Tuesday, April 29, 2014

Comments on Ghost Adventures Aftershocks

I am going to take a small break in the Curse Breaking series to cover this material. Last Saturday night the Travel Channel aired, "Ghost Adventures Aftershocks", which I am going to comment on here.



It's interesting that no one recommended exorcising Bobby Mackey's and shutting down the demonic activity. Which is what really needs to take place.

If you didn't catch the original airing of Aftershock, it might be available here.
Feel free to comment, slander, throw stones, or ask questions below.

Enjoy!
Rev. Mike

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Monday, April 21, 2014

Curse Breaking Series - Ghost Hunting and Spiritism Part II

Welcome back as I continue this series on curse breaking - Ghost Hunting and Spiritism. This article is part ii, if you haven't read the first article, here is the url to part i. For those of you who follow this blog, you know I pretty much stick to the NASB translation of the Bible. In this article I will site scripture from the New King James Version translation.

Why?

A lot of verses regarding the supernatural are being translated out of the scripture. When you examine the scripture and Hebrew and Greek on sites, like the Blue Letter Bible, you'll see where the translator of your favorite translation used an artistic license. In many cases, theologians are starting to interject their own belief rather than maintaining an accurate translation. This is especially true when it comes to the supernatural in the Bible. As an exercise for yourself look up the first couple of verses I cited in this article and see for yourself. I just wanted to give you a heads up of why I suddenly switched translations on you. Sometimes we have to dig really deep - down in the translations in scripture, to get a true feel of what is really going on. For consistency, I will use the New King James Version of translation in this article. Now, let's get back into the article series, Curse Breaking - Ghost Hunting and Spiritism, Part II.

King Saul Consults The Long Island Medium

 

The common scriptural argument used by Christian paranormal investigators is in 1 Samuel 28. The Christian spiritualists argument is that Saul communicated with the ghost of Samuel through the medium at En-Dor.

13  And the king said to her, “Do not be afraid. What did you see?” 
And the woman said to Saul, “I saw a spirit ascending out of the earth.”
 14  So he said to her, “What is his form?” 
And she said, “An old man is coming up, and he is covered with a mantle.” And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down. 

15  Now Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” 
And Saul answered, “I am deeply distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God has departed from me and does not answer me anymore, neither by prophets nor by dreams. Therefore I have called you, that you may reveal to me what I should do.”  (1 Samuel 28:13-15)

In verse 14, Saul perceived it was Samuel. Saul never saw Samuel in this encounter. It was the medium acting through her familiar spirit. If it were Samuel, the medium would have had to pull him from paradise, then in Sheol. It would be impossible to summon a deceased spirit from Sheol. Two possible scenarios here, one, the medium summoned a demon, or God allowed the medium to summon Samuel to mock Saul. I firmly believe the evidence is in the scripture for the medium summoning a demon through her familiar spirit. We know about paradise from Luke 16, verses 19-31, of Lazarus and the rich man. Lazarus was on the good side of paradise and the rich man was in torment. Neither Lazarus, nor the rich man, were permitted to leave the confines of their spiritual reality. The spirit of Samuel could not have been pulled from paradise. So what spirit did the medium conjure up? It was most likely a demon impersonating Samuel.

Scripture in 1 Chronicles identifies the ghost of Samuel  as a familiar spirit.

13 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; 14 And enquired not of the LORD: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse. (1 Chronicles 10:13-14)

A human spirit, or a ghost (which technically, is the combination of soul and spirit), as a spiritualist would call it, is not a familiar spirit! A familiar spirit is an elohim, a lower case god, a demon. In this verse, we see that Saul died for his transgression, that is, his unrepented sin against God, and against the word of God. When you rebel against God you are opening yourself to being cursed. Saul violated the law of God by using a medium and consulting the dead. These two things, witchcraft and necromancy, are abominations to God. Why would God grant the spirit of Samuel to leave paradise and go against His own word?

Ghost hunters like to use the word debunked, when one arrives at a normal explanation to a paranormal problem. The spiritualist theology of Saul seeing the ghost of Samuel has been debunked right here!

Paranormal investigation and Christian beliefs don't mix. It's like adding oil to water. Spiritualists believe you can communicate with the dead. Our scripture tells us that communication with the dead is impossible. Furthermore, contacting the dead is an abomination to God. He wouldn't grant it in the first place and go against His own law. Christians involved in ghost hunting are convoluting their own beliefs with spiritualism. They're mixing two religions. The scripture warns us of borrowing from other faiths in 1 Timothy.

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; (1 Timothy 4:1)


When a Christian ghost hunter is out on paranormal investigations and talking to spirits, they're giving heed to seducing spirits and they're listening to the doctrines of demons. If you're a ghost hunter you need to cease paranormal investigations immediately and repent for acting against the word of God.

Paranormal Clergies


False doctrines of spiritualism have entered the church through paranormal clergies. Paranormal clergies cross the isles of denominations and have infiltrated many pulpits. Some members of paranormal clergies now include a few Roman Catholic priest who are NOT exorcists. They protray themselves as exorcists - but they are not! This deception is not limited to the Catholic church. We rarely use the word exorcist. But we do have a lot of deliverance ministers in the same sinking boat of deception. The paranormal clergy believes that deceased people can become stuck between our world and their eternity. This anomaly is proof of ghosts. Is it really? These are church pastors and clergy that are embracing teachings of spiritualism through their own  paranormal involvement and presenting it as godly. It is good that church pastors are assisting people with their supernatural problems. Many church pastors don't understand the supernatural and choose to ignore it or avoid it all together. The church should be the center of handling supernatural problems. The bad part of this is the clergy is allowing their beliefs to be tainted with spiritualism. Their experiences from their investigations introduce doctrines contrary to the word of God. For instance, a negative spirit can be a human spirit with demonic characteristics, called a wraith or it can simply be a demon. This is not biblical teaching it is spiritualism demonology. This is the warning in scripture from 1 Timothy 4:1. The paranormal clergy is listening to evil spirits and bringing the false doctrine into church.  The religious spirit has moved into many pulpits, across many denominations. I have also heard  a false doctrine stating if demons asked God for forgiveness He might forgive them. These pastors and clergy have opened themselves up to religious spirits and the Jezebel spirit. This is a dangerous position to be in for church leadership. If your priest or pastor is a ghost hunter or a paranormal clergy member, you have to make some tough choices about where you're getting yourself spiritually fed. These guys may love Jesus and be really nice people -but they're being deceived and they're preaching their deception to you. God didn't grant Saul the consultation of the medium. He cursed Saul! Similarly, God won't bless words from the pulpit that He is opposed to.

Spiritism Entering into Church Deliverance Ministry


Sadly, I have been seeing a lot of New Age beliefs enter the church. One such teaching is in regards to deliverance, that a person can be possessed by a deceased rogue human spirit. I have seen a lot of crazy supernatural things in my ministry - especially through exorcisms and house blessings. I am talking a lot of weird things! I have encountered a lot of spirits identifying themselves as deceased spirits looking for help. When you pull the mask of it's a demon. Don't be fooled by these false teachings. Especially, this one. Put up a big red warning flag when you see this. A popular Christian ministry is publishing media on this lie. And lot's of other ministries are blindly getting on the band wagon - of deception.

What does scripture say about lingering spirits?


28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. (John 5:28-29)

The Gospel of John is referring to the deceased in Sheol, the netherworld of the dead. Before the resurrection of Jesus Christ all deceased spirits went to Sheol - the grave. The deceased waited there for their judgement until Jesus completed the miracle of the cross and defeated death. The scripture doesn't say, "and also the deceased human spirits who were lingering around". Because they weren't. We know from 1 Samuel 28:13, that only the little "gods", elohim,  can go back and forth between death. The little "gods" are demons. Human spirits are subjugated to some pretty specific rules at the time the human body expires. As we are living in the End Times church, Jesus has completed the work on the cross and all human spirits go to heaven or hell when the body expires. The spirit has an automatic retrieval system on board.


Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed,
Or the golden bowl is broken,
Or the pitcher shattered at the fountain,
Or the wheel broken at the well.
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was,
And the spirit will return to God who gave it. (Ecclesiastes 12:6-7)


The biggest issue I see with deliverance and exorcism ministry is that people are blindly jumping into them to pick fights with spirits. If you don't know you're spiritual authority, the dominion of your authority, are lacking a strong discernment of spirits, and you don't have an inkling as to how dark abyss of evil really is, you shouldn't be in this ministry. I don't know how many times discernment and the Holy Spirit has steered me in one direction and popular conference speakers on deliverance have led the general Christian populus off in another direction. A lot of deception is entering the church in deliverance ministry. Satan has counter measures and intelligence. And he is going to use someone who has a pulpit to perpetuate these false ideas. Always test the spirit!!!!

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.  (1 John 4:1)

As I write this, a lot of popular and misguided deliverance ministers are instructing their students to sharpen their iron in the second heaven. You don't increase your authority by battling in the second heaven, but as John Paul Jackson accurately puts it, you do become an unnecessary casualty of war! Because you cleaned your loaded shotgun pointed at yourself!  If you're a student of one these deliverance ministries I strongly suggest you take the time and repent for operating out of your jurisdiction and ask God for forgiveness. Then run in the opposite direction away from that misguided and dangerous deliverance ministry. The deception of deceased spirits, and battling in the second heaven are two key red flags for identifying a deceived deliverance ministry.

Conclusion


From our experience in deliverance, exorcism, and all sorts of crazy battles with the  demonic, ghosts are demons masquerading as human spirits. The more we worked with oppressing spirits on individuals and casting them out, the more we started seeing the same behavior in bodiless spirits -apparitions. For instance, when a person commits suicide in a home, it isn't their soul  that lingers, it's the spirit of suicide. The spirit of suicide is looking for a new victim. The house has to be cleansed, and the family must be cleansed from the spirit of suicide as well. These are demonic spirits masquerading as deceased humans. When you have done hundreds of deliverance sessions and have seen many manifestations you start to understand what is going on with people and a haunting. The paranormal clergy isn't regularly involved with curse breaking and demonic oppression to see the veil has been pulled over their eyes.

If you are a pastor or a clergy member that has convoluted the word of God with spiritualism from the pulpit you need to repent and ask forgiveness. Then you need to fix the damage you have done.
If you are Roman Catholic and in need of an exorcist. Contact your local diocese! They will direct you to a credible, authentic Roman Catholic exorcist.

My ministry also does exorcisms. Keep in mind, we must evaluate whether an exorcism is necessary. Many times people just need to stand in their own authority and need a deeper understanding in their own faith to shut down demonic activity.

Enjoy!
Rev. Mike

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014

Curse Breaking Series - Ghost Hunting and Spiritism Part I

Jim was a Ghost Hunter in Northern California. Most of his Friday night's he would spend with his his friends,  toting electronic gadgets and going through haunted homes. Jim's paranormal team even setup a web channel where people could login and watch a paranormal team do an investigation. Jim was having the time of his life. Ghost hunting was thrilling and exciting.

One day an exciting case came in. They were invited to a house with demonic activity. They packed up their gear and off they went to the house they called, “the Hell Gate”.

Jim still remembers this investigation. It wasn't the thrill of the lifetime investigation he had hoped for. Instead, this investigation became the start of a living nightmare for Jim. A demonic spirit attached itself to Jim and went home with him.

Over the next few months Jim became violently sick, and something medically inexplicable was eating away at Jim from the inside out. Literally. Jim was afraid to go to sleep at night because a dark shadow would manifest over over his bed.

Jim's friends from his ghost hunting team were paranormal-ly perplexed. In reality, Jim's paranormal investigator friends weren't the great intellects of the paranormal as the TV shows portray these people to be. In fact, they didn't really contact Jim because they didn't know what to do with him. Now on Friday nights, Jim's posse~ went off on different haunted web productions -without him.

Jim was frustrated! So he did what any good paranormal investigator would do, he contacted a psychic. Jim consulted a top psychic-spiritualist over the phone.  She told Jim that the house he got the evil spirit from was on desecrated Indian ground. The demon attacking Jim was now communicating with the psychic and feeding her disinformation. If demons laugh, you know this was one chuckling out loud. Because now the psychic had Jim off on a wild goose chase petitioning the California Indian council for a cleansing ceremony on his home. Jim was frustrated that the council didn't return his calls.

Nobody returned Jim's calls except for the psychic. As Jim's condition worsened he decided the spiritualists and ghost hunter's around him were useless. Jim reached out and contacted a Christian ministry, M16.

It took numerous and long drawn out phone calls on our part to convince Jim he didn't need to contact the California Indian council for a cleansing. It was Jim that needed the spiritual cleansing. We had even a tougher time of breaking Jim from his psychic dependency. He would tell the ministry he wasn't in contact with his psychic, then in a lengthy phone call, have a slip of the tongue he was talking with her. So we stopped working with Jim. He had to choose, Jesus or the psychic.

A week later Jim called us back and decided to work with us. It took over a month to work with Jim. He, like most other people coming out of paranormal situations, didn't want to run to Jesus. They just want to be saved from their pain and move on in life. That's not how Jesus works. Jesus is a healer, but he wants to make you whole. This means you need to run to him. After a long and painstaking battle, Jim finally accepted Jesus. By battle, I don't mean between my spiritual views and his. Jim was struggling because Jesus was kicking this thing's butt! Only, the life style he was involved in, and hanging around paranormal investigators, Jesus was a myth. Jim had a lot of internal struggles and battles and lots of phone calls with Lisa and myself. He was perplexed that this Jesus person, had the power to push back on the realm of darkness. Jim's life turned around when he stopped being a spiritualist and started being a spiritual follower of  Jesus.

Spiritualism

 

Spiritualism has its roots in American history that dates back to the 1840's. In upstate New York, Christian revivals were so impacted in the area and so many occurring, the area was labeled the “Burned-over district”. One Christian revival after another swept through this region. Revivals literally “burned” through towns like wild fires. People were spiritually hungry for the power the revivals brought to their town. But as the revivals left town, nothing was left to spiritually feed the people that had powerful Jesus encounters. The revivals left a vacuum of the power of the Holy Spirit when they pulled up their stakes and departed.  The vacuum became filled by cults and non-Christian beliefs bringing their own revivals. 

Upstate New York spawned many cults during this revival burn over period. Joseph Smith founded Mormonism in this region. The Book of Mormon was reportedly unearthed in a hillside in Palmyra, New York.

The Fox Sisters

 

In the 1840's the Fox sisters, of Hydesville, New York,  founded the new religion, spiritualism.  After living in a haunted home, the youngest of the three sisters communicated with a spirit by having the spirit tap out yes or no to her questions. The three sisters became the first of what we now know as modern day mediums. The new religion spread like wild fire, through upstate New York, and soon the country was on fire with spiritualism. The religion was based on the belief that human souls could wander the earth as ghosts and you could communicate with them. It's interesting to see how the enemy re-invents old things and packages them up like something brand new. Spiritualism is still necromancy!

At the time of this writing, nearly every major cable network has some sort of ghost hunting or paranormal show. I was surprised to find that even Animal Planet has a paranormal show. All the ghost hunting shows you see on television and the Internet today are spiritualism based. They all employ the belief systems and methods for communicating with the dead, that the Fox sisters introduced in the 1840s. The television show, on the SyFy network, Ghost Hunters, you see the team members using this knocking technique developed by Kate Fox to communicate with the dead. Investigator Steve Gonsalves, on Ghost Hunters, uses his “Shave and a haircut” knock all the time on the show to drum up spirit response. This communication by knocking is what Kate Fox and her two sisters used in the 1840's when they started the religion. Mediums existed long before the Fox sisters came long. However, the Fox sisters were responsible for the modern movement of spiritualism.

Although the Fox sisters all passed away in the late the 1800s, their legacy lives on. It is thriving at the Lily Dale Assembly. Lily Dale is a spiritualist community comprised of mediums, located in Lily Dale, New York. The assembly is the existing church of spiritualism founded by the Fox sisters in the 1840s. Lily Dale is still flourishing today. You can go out there and pay a gate fee, only good for 24 hours to visit the community.

Psychics and God's Laws 

 

Before we discuss whether a Christian should be involved in ghost hunting, let's first take a look at some scriptural facts on ghosts and spiritualism. First of all, the scripture prohibits us from engaging in any form of contact with ghosts. Regardless if they're departed human souls or evil spirits.

‘Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.  (Leviticus 19:31)

A medium is a psychic. Psychics communicate with the dead. Communicating with the dead is necromancy. Scripture says that to seek the consultation of a medium is to be defiled by them. Why? Remember our friend Jim who was receiving the counter attacks through disinformation from his medium? Mediums are in contact with demons. Plain and simple.

9 “When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the LORD your God has not appointed such for you. (Deuteronomy 18:9-31)

There it is, in black and white, in Deteuronomy 18, verse 11,  being a medium is an abomination to God. It is an abomination because it is a counterfeit prophetic gift, what a deliverance minister would call a Jezebel spirit. God has prophets and seers that listen to his word. A medium listens to demons. Bringing the belief into the church that ghost hunting is okay is defilement of God's word. This is the movement of a Jezebel spirit, a counter prophetic spirit, and it needs to be shut down in the church body.

Uncertain of Their Own Faith in Eternity


The most compelling reason Christians get involved in ghost hunting and paranormal investigations is because they believe they are providing proof of the after-life. The problem is the proof they are seeking is spiritualism truth. Which is a lie from the father of lies. For one, Jesus chastised the Pharisees for demanding to see miracles. This is where the Christian ghost hunter is with their faith. The  ghost hunter requires to see miracles, which in the case of ghost hunting, are from the enemy.  Yes, it is proof of existence of the supernatural, but the spiritualist is so convoluted in lies they can't see the spirit is a demon. Furthermore, involvement in these activities brings curses, like the attachment of an evil spirit like our friend Jim had. The lure of chasing the supernatural also brings uncontrollable obsessions as well.

In Part II of this series, we'll take a look at what the Bible says about dead spirits.

Feel free to comment, slander, throw stones, or ask questions below.

Enjoy!
Rev. Mike

For further reading on the topic of spiritual warfare get your copy of,
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©2014 Michael J. Norton

Thursday, April 3, 2014

Who and What Were the Nephilim?


Genesis 6:4 - The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
The Lord spoke to Moses and told him to send one son from each of the tribes of Israel to go as spies into the land of Canaan. After 40 days of exploring the new land, the spies returned to give a report to Moses and Aaron. The spies reported the good news that land was flowing with milk and honey. They also reported some bad news -there were giants in the land! They saw the Nephilim and they feared them.
Who were the Nephilim and why did God’s people fear them?
The Nephilim are one of those intriguing mysteries of the Bible. The existence of the Nephilim is first revealed in Genesis 6:4. The Nephilim are introduced prior to Noah and the great flood. The implications are that the Nephilim and their offspring were evil and the earth needed to be cleansed of them.
Despite the flood wiping out everything on earth, the Nephilim supernaturally reappear and become an obstacle for the Israelites. Causing them to disobey God for not taking possession of the land.

There Were Giants in the Land

Theologians have been debating since the first century of the early church as to what the Nephilim were. Some consider the Nephilim to be nothing more than a race of mighty men. The late, Dr. J. Vernon McGee, in his classic radio series, Thru the Bible, held the opinion that the Nephilim were merely men.
These were not monstrosities; they were men. The record makes it clear that the giants were in the earth before this took place, and it simply means they were offspring of outstanding individuals.[1]
Another age old argument is that the Nephilim literally are a race of giants. Encounters with giants occur throughout the Old Testament. The most notable giant being the Philistine Goliath could very well have been a descendant of the Nephilim.
Other giants appeared in the Old Testament, the Rephaites (Rephaim), the Anakites (the sons of Anak are a part of the Nephilim, Numbers 13:33), and the Zamzumites. In the book of Genesis, chapter 14, the War of the Kings, King Chedorlaomer and the kings that were with him defeated the Rephaim, the Zuzim and the Emim. Deuteronomy 2:10 describes the Emim as people as great, as numerous, as tall and as powerful as the Anakim (the offspring of the Nephalim). These race of giants were all genetically related.
Deuteronomy 2:11 - 11 Like the Anakim, they are also regarded as Rephaim, but the Moabites call them Emim.
The significance of this battle with the kings, in the book of Genesis, reveals that the Nephilim were roaming the earth at the time of Abraham. Reading the scripture as the infallible word of God we have an enigma on our hands. In Deuteronomy, we have King Og, the last of the remnant of the Rephaim, who had a burial bed 13 1/2 feet long (9 cubits x 1.5 ft/cubit = 13.5 feet).
Deuteronomy 3:11-11 (For only Og king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaim. Behold, his  bedstead was an iron bedstead; it is in Rabbah of the sons of Ammon. Its length was nine cubits and its width four cubits by ordinary cubit.)
The question arises, where did these giants come from?

The Sons of God and the Daughters of Men

There is significant evidence in the Bible that there were a race of giants in the land. The giants existed with Abraham and were wiped out of human history probably around the time of King David. The giants weren’t genetic anomalies there were races of them. Genesis 6:4 doesn’t shed any light on the matter at all. The scripture explains the Nephilim came into existence when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Who were the sons of God?
Theologians have two differing beliefs regarding who the sons of God are. The first account is that the sons of God are actually the descendants of Seth and the daughters of men are the descendants of Cain. The weight of the argument is that this intermarrying is in violation of the Law.
Deuteronomy 7:1-4 - 1“When the Lord your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you, and when the Lord your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor shall you take their daughters for your sons. For [they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods; then the anger of the Lord will be kindled against you and He will quickly destroy you.
The basis of this argument doesn’t readily explain as to why the descendants were physical giants.
The second theological belief is that the sons of God refers to fallen angels. The foundation of this belief is in the context that “the sons of God “ are used in the scripture. The Hebrew  translation is Ben Elohim, which literally is, the sons of God.  Theologians who are of the point of view that the sons of God are angels, provide the argument using the context the sons of God are mentioned in the book of Job,  Job 1:6, 2:1, and 38:7. Again, the Hebrew contextual translation here is ben elohim, the sons of God.
Job 1:6 - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.
In this context, the sons of God are referring to angels in heaven, before the throne of God.
Job 2:1 - 1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord.
And in Job 38:7,  the contextual reference is angels.
Job 38:7 - When the morning stars sang together
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
In each of these scripture verses in the book of Job, ben elohim, is referring to angels. The scripture alludes to the sons of God as being angels.  Now we’ll examine what the early church believed.

Accepted Belief in the Antiquities

Who or what did the early church believe the sons of God to be? Some clues surface in early writings and in New Testament scripture that the accepted belief was that the sons of God were in fact angels. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus writes in his works, about Genesis 6:4,
NOW this posterity of Seth continued to esteem God as the Lord of the universe, and to have an entire regard to virtue, for seven generations; but in process of time they were perverted, and forsook the practices of their forefathers; and did neither pay those honors to God which were appointed them, nor had they any concern to do justice towards men. But for what degree of zeal they had formerly shown for virtue, they now showed by their actions a double degree of wickedness, whereby they made God to be their enemy. For many angels of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength; for the tradition is, that these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants. But Noah was very uneasy at what they did; and being displeased at their conduct, persuaded them to change their dispositions and their acts for the better: but seeing they did not yield to him, but were slaves to their wicked pleasures, he was afraid they would kill him, together with his wife and children, and those they had married; so he departed out of that land.
William Whiston, who provided this translation in, The Works of Josephus, in 1736, made the comment, “This notion, that the fallen angels were, in some sense, the fathers of the old giants, was the constant opinion of antiquity.”.[2]
In Terry Law’s book, the truth about Angels, he writes that the “sons of God” was accepted as referring to angels by the ancient Jewish synagogues and by Hellenistic Jews at and before the time of Christ. The Christian church also accepted that the sons of God referred to fallen angels until the fourth century.[3]
An early church Christian author, Tertullian of Carthage, cited 1 Enoch, in his works, Of Idolatry, (around the year 190 AD),
Enoch had before foretold that the “the daemons and the spirits of angels fell away, would change into idolatry all the elements, the whole gear of the world, the things which are contained in heaven, in the sea, in the earth, so that they should be consecrated in the stead of God, in opposition to the Lord.”[4]
Tertullian is quoting an ancient book, 1 Enoch, which was not included in the 66 books of the Canonical Bible.
In the New Testament, books 2 Peter and Jude, also make reference to the angels who left their habitation and took earthly wives. These writings also illuminate the notion that the early church believed the sons of God were fallen angels in the book of Genesis.
2 Peter 2:4-5 - 4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
The author of Jude writes,
Jude 1:6-7 - 6 And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, 7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
Tertullian knew that the epistle of Jude was specifically quoting the book 1 Enoch. Bruce Metzger cites in his works on, The Canon of the New Testament: It’s Origin, Development and Significance, that the epistle of Jude appealed to Tertullian because of its testimonial to the authority of Enoch.[5]  As you can see, the book of 1 Enoch was well known in the first and second century churches and was in the synagogues at the time of the ministry of Jesus Christ.
Both in 2 Peter and the book Jude, the authors are referring to angels already in chains in eternal darkness, awaiting their judgment. We know Satan and his demons are roaming the earth causing chaos until their time of judgment when Jesus Christ returns. So who are these angels in chains? It seems to have been common knowledge in the synagogues and early church who these angels were. Many theologians believe the two authors are quoting another book, then common to the synagogues and churches, the book of 1 Enoch. The book of Enoch raises more questions then answers and was obviously not included in the 66 canonical books of the Bible.  To muddy the waters here, it is no mystery that the Peter and the author of Jude are referencing the book of 1 Enoch. This book is presumed to be authored by the same Enoch who appears in Genesis 5.
Genesis 5:18:21-24 - 21 Enoch lived sixty-five years, and became the father of Methuselah. 22 Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters. 23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. 24 Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.
In the book of 1 Enoch, in chapter 6,we see a similar passage to the scripture in Genesis 6:4.
1 Enoch  Book 1 Ch. 6-  1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 
3 and beget us children.
Keep in mind here the book of 1 Enoch is not the smoking gun that proves these were angels. It only provides some evidence that the common belief in Jewish antiquity is that the sons of God were angels and that we have some evidence the angels may have attempted pro creation with earthly women. We leave the book of 1 Enoch as nothing more than that. I believe the book of 1 Enoch raises more questions than answers, which is why it was probably left out of the canonical books of the Bible. But we must also keep in mind it was in the synagogues and quoted in our New Testament in the book of Jude.

Can Angels Procreate with Man?

That is the question of which we’ll never receive a true answer to until we go to our glory and sit through the new arrival 101 presentation in Heaven. From an earthly stand point and from the frontlines of battle in our ministry – I do believe this is possible. Our ministry has been involved in ministering to satanic ritual abuse survivors and people dealing with incubus-succubus (raping demon) manifestations. It is through these ministry experiences that I know demons are a part of rape, oppressive spiritual rape and ritual rape. In these cases, demons manifest and rape individuals. A female looking demon, a succubus, can collect genetic material from a man. Demons can manipulate DNA, look at horrific illnesses and cancer. Angels under Satan possess supernatural God given wisdom beyond the scope of our brightest men. What we Christians don’t consider is not if this can be done, but how horrific it is when it is done. In ritual abuse, some women are used as nothing more than breeders. The raping by demons is violent and is commonly done on children during these rituals.

Demons and the Nephilim

There are several common beliefs out there as to the origin of demonic spirits. I strongly subscribe to the belief that the demons are in fact fallen angels who rebelled with Lucifer. However, there are theologians who believe that demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim that died in the great flood. Those who subscribe to this belief cite the book of 1 Enoch.
1 Enoch Book 1 Ch 15 - 8 And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon
9 the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; 
10 they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.]
11 And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless 
12 hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them.
The late Dr. Tom Hawkins, of Restoration in Christ Ministries, where he and his wife Diane, have made incredible contributions to the ministry of Satanic ritual abuse survivors and ministering to dissociative identity disorder, did a significant amount of research on the topic of the Nephilim spirits being demons. In Dr. Hawkins work on Cosmic Hierarchy, he writes,
We began examining the whole concept of two realms of spiritual beings. One was the usual demonic realm, which seems to include the lower level spiritual beings. Another was the higher level fallen angels, called celestial beings in Jude 1:8-10 (NIV). Over time we have begun to understand that celestial beings are a subcategory of the overall designation “cosmic beings”. While, admittedly, we don’t know the origin of demons, I now believe they are not “fallen angels”, but more likely the offspring of the Nephilim.[6]
The theological argument that follows here, and Dr. Hawkins addresses it subtly, is, who are the principalities, powers, and rulers with Satan? We now have two distinct spiritual beings. Terry Law, comments on this in his book, The Truth About Angels,
The only explanation that fits all the facts seems to be that some fallen angels transgressed by not only by taking on human bodies –as we know fallen angels sometimes do- but by operating in all the functions of those bodies, including sex. This transgression was much worse than even rebelling against God that they were chained in darkness before the flood or at the time of the flood.[7]
Like other magnificent mysteries of the Bible we’ll have to wait for our Glory 101 New Arrivals class in Heaven to get all the answers we now seek. I am sure the early church were having the same Theological arguments.  God is sovereign and doesn’t owe us an answer. Just remember, it is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings!

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Rev. Mike

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[1] McGee, J. Vernon. Thru The Bible Commentary Series: The Law - Genesis Chapters 1-15. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1991. Pg. 120

[2] Whiston, William. The Works of Josephus. Peabody: Hendrickson Publishers, 2006, pg. 32.
[3] Law, Terry. the truth about Angels. Lake Marry: Charisma House. 2006 pg. 204-205
[4] Dodgson, Rev. C. Tertullian. London: Oxford. 1842. Pgs 223-224.
[5] Metzger, Bruce M. The Canon of the New Testament: Its Origin, Development, and Significance. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1987. Pg. 159
[6] Hawkins, Dr. Tom. Cosmic Hierarchy, Restoration in Christ Ministries, 2008, http://www.rcm-usa.org/pdf/Cosmic%20Hierarchy%20and%20Appeal%202008-02-16.pdf pg. 29

[7] Law, Terry. the truth about Angels. Lake Marry: Charisma House. 2006 pg. 206
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